Working Holiday Visa – Job offers before I go out

[Amadeus]

I’m planning going back out to Auckland either by the end of July, August, or September. I’m planning on finally emigrating for my partner, however – I need a actual offer for a job before I fly out and I’m not sure if anything of the jobs that I’ve applied for are willing to wait so long for me.

This is of serious importance to me because, I really do wish to go out and live with my partner however it’s starting to put a strain on our relationship and we are just bordering on breaking up. Please don’t say, “Can’t she come to England to you?” She’s at AUT on a three year course, where I’m currently mopping up on courses so it’s much handier if I go to her...

I really need job offers, and I’m not sure a Working Holiday Visa would cover finding a good paying job. I’ve also been thinking a Work to Resident may be better suited to me.

All I’m asking is if anyone can point me in the right direction, anything that will help.

Every little bit of advice will be extremely helpful

[JandM]

First of all, reminding you of the answers to your previous thread. http://www.enz.org/forum/showthread....869#post346869

Then, it is VERY hard to get a job offer from outside NZ when you don't have a visa of any kind. It's unlikely to happen. You say this.

I’m not sure a Working Holiday Visa would cover finding a good paying job.

A WHV will cover you for starting work at anything. If you're offered a permanent contract, time enough then to apply for a different kind of work permit on that basis. Meantime, you could be living with your partner and collecting proof that you are in a stable relationship, which would enable her to sponsor you for a work permit as her partner - a different solution. Please look carefully at the links to NZIS on the other thread. All this is on public view, for you to decide - nobody can by NZ law tell you what you OUGHT to do, but there are definitely options you can find.

[sophiedb]

hi Amadeus,

Unless you have quals and experience in a specialist field, I'm afraid that getting a job offer before you arrive will be difficult on a WHV, and only a little less so on a WTR. This doesn't mean that you shouldn't go though, and tbh with the hassles people have to go through to get a WTR I'd stick with the WHV while still eligible - it is the easiest work-permitting visa you will ever be likely to get.

As someone whose 6-year (so far!) marriage wouldn't exit without the aid of 2 WHVs (first hubby's, when he came to the UK and we met, then mine down under when his ran out), I can confirm that a temporary visa (of either variety) is not a barrier to earning money. You might need to take a few boring temp jobs while waiting for something amazing or regular to turn up (data entry, waitressing and sitting in a ticket booth were never high on my agenda anyway, though the occasional "security" job at a top-level rugby league game was pretty cool!).

It might sound like a risk, but if you think the relationship is worth moving to NZ for it's worth considering. Hanging on for the perfect job has been many people's downfall, because you can run out of money quicker than you think, and at the end of the day permanent residence via partnership is probably easier to achieve than WTR. (unless you have health issues or an old criminal record.. which would be scrutinised either way)

As far as the gathering relationship evidence angle is concerned though, it worked for us and for that reason I am very grateful for the existence of the WHV scheme. I was also very happy to go travelling though, and had been thinking about it for several years before meeting hubby. My contract came to an end and I didn't have any long-term financial commitments or debts, so it was easy (ish) to leave. This may or may not be the case for you

Good luck either way!

[veronica]

I was going to answer this one but I think its all been said. good luck

[Mrs Pony]

ok... WHV's aren't scary! The only down side is that you can't get a perm gig with it... but you can start a job totally rock and if they want to keep you they can sponsor to so you can get PR...

Also... applying with PR while you have a job is a BIG plus! We had a phone interview when we already lived here and were working... the guy basically asked the 2 questions he could and said that we should hear back in a few days...

WHV's are your friends! Don't be afraid of the WHV's!

[althea]

Wow, Mrs. Pony, I didn't know it was possible to apply for PR directly on a WHV... thought we had to stay for a minimum of 2 years first or something like that. I've mostly only heard of people getting work permits from their WHV companies.

[JandM]

Wow, Mrs. Pony, I didn't know it was possible to apply for PR directly on a WHV... thought we had to stay for a minimum of 2 years first or something like that. I've mostly only heard of people getting work permits from their WHV companies.

It's best to go to NZIS for the regulations. What WHV companies tell is not necessarily the whole story.

[IanW99]

Wow, Mrs. Pony, I didn't know it was possible to apply for PR directly on a WHV... thought we had to stay for a minimum of 2 years first or something like that. I've mostly only heard of people getting work permits from their WHV companies.

If you have enough points, you can apply for PR at any time even if you are on a WTR permit.

Ian

[sophiedb]

Wow, Mrs. Pony, I didn't know it was possible to apply for PR directly on a WHV... thought we had to stay for a minimum of 2 years first or something like that. I've mostly only heard of people getting work permits from their WHV companies.

People get PR without having set foot in NZ in their whole lives, let alone having lived there for 2 years

Visas are all about eligibility, regardless of who you are, where you are and how long you've been there. Meeting the criteria is the name of the game.

[JandM]

And the NZ immigration website http://www.immigration.govt.nz/ is the prime source for knowing what the criteria are.