How do I bring my current girlfriend to NZ?

[anonimoose]

Hi everyone!

I want to get your thoughts on this, this has been bothering for a while now. I recently sent my PR application for myself, I have a girlfriend, who I hope to marry someday.. but I applied for PR for myself only since she's not really in a position right now to file one herself (because of financial and family issues). I can't really include her as partner because we don't live together.. my plan is to settle in NZ first (assuming I get PR approved) and then bring her over (possibly get married first) to NZ but not exactly sure how.

Is this a sound plan? I'd really really really appreciate your thoughts on this

TIA
Anonimoose

[ykkee]

i think just the married cert can't prove that, you must have history for living together, such as sharing bank account over a period of time, utility bills for both of you using the same address, your kids ' birth cert which lists out the mother and father's name etc

[JandM]

You will have to have some history of living together, and proof of this, before you are able to sponsor her for entry to NZ. (The kind of proof you need is discussed on old threads - see Search on the blue bar above, and try 'partnership evidence'.) Once you have lived together for even a short while (in whichever country), you will be able to sponsor her for a temporary work visa, see this page http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migra...milystream.htm, and then work up to Residence once you have lived together for 12 months.

[irishal]

You will have to have some history of living together, and proof of this, before you are able to sponsor her for entry to NZ. (The kind of proof you need is discussed on old threads - see Search on the blue bar above, and try 'partnership evidence'.) Once you have lived together for even a short while (in whichever country), you will be able to sponsor her for a temporary work visa, see this page http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migra...milystream.htm, and then work up to Residence once you have lived together for 12 months.

this is something i wanted to do aswell for when i go over to nz looking for work,wanted to get sorted first then bring girlfriend and kids over when i get work and somewhere to live,so ill be talking to the girlfriend now about going legit here first so there'll be no hassle when that time comes.
you learn something new every day eh

[ralf-nz]

this is something i wanted to do aswell for when i go over to nz looking for work,wanted to get sorted first then bring girlfriend and kids over when i get work and somewhere to live,so ill be talking to the girlfriend now about going legit here first so there'll be no hassle when that time comes.
you learn something new every day eh

"Legit" for INZ in this scenario means living together for one year generally. Giving the time line you told us about in another post tat shouldn't be an issue.

[anonimoose]

is the only way to do it is to live together for at least 12 months? My situation is very difficult because we're only in a girlfriend-boyfriend relationship and I just lodged my application last month. If it takes a year or so to get PR (even harder if I get WTR first), it looks like there's no way I can bring her over to NZ even if we get married. Isn't this something INZ has looked into before? I'm sure I'm not the only one in this predicament

Looking forward to hearing from others as well...

TIA

[Duncan74]

I'm sure I'm not the only one in this predicament
TIA

With respect, then it's because you're not the only one n the situation that the rules are there. Can she not apply in her own right? I'm not suggesting that this is the case at all, but how do NZIS know that you're not claiming a relationship with someone you don't really know just to get them into NZ? Should they accept that, and do a buy 1 get one free with no checks on every PR issue? And what happens if you split up on arival, should she be sent home, or do NZIS jsut accept someone in who may not be employable, have no way of supporting themselves and requires state support (you've proved through PR that you are emplyable and have in demand skills).

As has been mentioned on other threads, emmingration/immigration is a stressful process that takes a tool on relationships and also needs time planning.

[Super_BQ]

For years i've often criticized how immigrating to NZ was such a breeze. I grew up in Canada and immigration didn't get tough until after 1985. When I came to NZ, pre 2000, I was shocked to see how much of a breeze migrating to NZ was.

I'm happy to see that NZ is catching up to the immigration requirements that Canada has had for decades. My reason is that all too often, while living in Canada, I saw and heard too many 'fake' marriages going on. A close friend of mine had been approached on 2 occasions to do a fake marriage. The deal was in return to do the marriage, he would receive $10,000. Today that would not seem much $ but back in 1990, it could buy a pretty nice new car and certainly at the time, he could make real good use of the coin. I'm from a small town where at the time, there were few asian migrants living there. Something like this normally exists in the bigger cities like Vancouver - to think that you know people that have been approached to do this makes me wonder how common this arrangement would be in Vancouver.

Back in 1998 here in NZ, my x-gf's sister had the exact same deal. The parents convinced her sister to marry this guy from China in exchange for some $ just so he could get PR in NZ. At the time there was no serious criteria to show the history of their relationship. What happened after I don't know but I did know that they didn't live in the same house after signing the paper. Actually I may of only seen him a few occasions and that was it. My x-gf's sister lived her own life sharing a flat with us at the time.

[JandM]

is the only way to do it is to live together for at least 12 months?

No, it's not the only way that she can come with you. Look at my previous post to you, the part where it says Once you have lived together for even a short while (in whichever country), you will be able to sponsor her for a temporary work visa, see this page and read the detail on the link. If you have a genuine relationship, INZ are pretty compassionate about allowing you to stay together, but you have to do things the official way, and accept that, although YOU may know you're honest, INZ officials are not just going to take what you say on trust, but have to see proof.

[anonimoose]

Thank you very much for all your replies.. I'm now scheduled for interview with CO FrancesWu on Sept. I've been reading about the provisions for petitioning under partnership who have not lived together for 12 months or more, at first I thought it's the path that I'll take with my girlfriend but I came across this topic from another forum and I don't want to end up in the same situation. If I eventually petition her under partnership I might be questioned why I did not include her in my aplicattion now. Reasons being first she can't risk going through the emigration process at this time (financial and other personal problems) and I can, second is, based on this info from NZIS Manila branch our boyfriend-girlfriend relationship is different from partnership such that we don't live together, that leaves us with proving our relationship is stable and genuine or we lived even for a short time.. now my questions are:

1. I don't think proving the relationship to be stable and geniune will be a problem but if she is able to get visit visa in the future to live for couple of months with me in NZ, will that count as "living together for short time"?

2. Should I inform my CO of my current situation why I didn't include my gf as partner in my application to prevent NZIS from thinking I intended to misled or withhold information if I decide to petition her under partnership in the future (provided I have established our partnership to be genuine and stable)?

TIA