Can you point me to any negative posts about New Zealand?

[Rasa11]

Thanks themilkybarkid,
Your reasons for going to NZ are basically the same as ours. That was a great list of negatives.

[Duncan74]

Re the above - #1 is probably right in general, but not for all, and for those that are on the LTSS list then market forces mean that in some areas there will be parity or even higher wages.

#6 - compared to where? It's not good, but it's not bad either on a world scale.

#12 - #13 means that investment in rail is risky.

And in addition -

young drivers in old unsafe vehicles leads to a way too high death rate on the roads.

internet shopping is very rare, and the way that the main comparative retailers work s on a barter system, so buying anything at all other than basic groceries turns into a game of poker and takes way longer than it should. Just advertise a price and be done with it, don't put a price label on a TV of $4000 then have a permanent 50% sale and then negotiate down to an actal transaction price of $800.

[NikT]

Hope this helps - what's not good in NZ:

1. Salaries are lower -you can earn a lot more in other countries
2. The sun is powerful you have a higher risk of skin cancer
3. It's really not that good for shopping - the choice is not that good
4. There is an under current of issues arising from the Treaty which took sovereignty of NZ from the Maori when it was never that clear that was happening.
5. It's miles away from anywhere
6. It's in serious debt
7. It has a la higher proportion of poor housing than most advanced countries - damp and cold living in winter is a problem for quite a few folk
8. Gas central heating is rare to find
9. You have to pay to see your GP
10. They lock up very high proportions of people
11. The suicide rate amongst children is high
12. The road system and train system needs improving and upgrading
13. The country constantly has minor earth tremours everyday with the risk of a major earthquake lurking.

Just my 2 cents worth.;

1. I'm not here for the money, but I do earn more here than did in UK.
2. Slip Slap Slop Wrap (think thats the right way round.)
3. Hate shopping.
4. No comment, don't know enough about it.
5. Big plus for me being miles away.
6. So is most of the world
7. True, put another log on the fire.
8. See 7
9. No biggy.
10. So they should.
11. See 4
12. The roads are OK, its the drivers that are crap. Don't use trains, only freight trains around here.
13. Again, no biggy, but when it happens, sit down, put your head between your legs and kiss your a** goodbye.



Nick.

[themilkybarkid]

UPDATED

1. Salaries are lower -you can earn a lot more in other countries
2. The sun is powerful you have a higher risk of skin cancer
3. It's really not that good for shopping - the choice is not that good
4. There is an under current of issues arising from the Treaty which took sovereignty of NZ from the Maori when it was never that clear that was happening.
5. It's miles away from anywhere
6. It's in serious debt, but so are most western countries
7. It has a la higher proportion of poor housing than most advanced countries - damp and cold living in winter is a problem for quite a few folk
8. Gas central heating is rare to find
9. You have to pay to see your GP
10. They lock up very high proportions of people
11. The suicide rate amongst children is high
12. The road system and train system needs improving and upgrading but the latter is difficult because of point 13
13. The country constantly has minor earth tremours everyday with the risk of a major earthquake lurking.
14. Internet shopping is limited
15. The risk of death on the roads is high - too many reckless drivers
16. Their are warmer countries to live in - the climate here can be cold, windy and damp in certain times/places.

[themilkybarkid]

Just my 2 cents worth.;

1. I'm not here for the money, but I do earn more here than did in UK.
2. Slip Slap Slop Wrap (think thats the right way round.)
3. Hate shopping.
4. No comment, don't know enough about it.
5. Big plus for me being miles away.
6. So is most of the world
7. True, put another log on the fire.
8. See 7
9. No biggy.
10. So they should.
11. See 4
12. The roads are OK, its the drivers that are crap. Don't use trains, only freight trains around here.
13. Again, no biggy, but when it happens, sit down, put your head between your legs and kiss your a** goodbye.



Nick.

I'm with you Nick!

Everything depends upon your perspective and values. For me most of these things listed above are not a major issue/concern. They need to put put into perspective with the many positives here in NZ, as well as seen relative to the negatives in other countries. I have made deliberately made no attempt to do on this thread -but just present negatives on their own - and in that sense out of context

[NikT]

Everything depends upon your perspective and values.

True.

Nick..

[benhila]

And in addition:

TV and NZ newspapers are c***

Cost of flights is prohibitively expensive (and as discussed in another thread, not solely due to geographical distance as the prices 'the other way round' are much lower)

Job finding is unduly influenced by 'WHO you know' rather than by 'WHAT you know'

[moz]

In my own opinion, from personal experience, I feel there are negatives everywhere you live, and one person may have negatives that others may not have..you really need to live somewhere to know it...

Geez I just confused myself, hope you understand it!

[dharder]

And in addition -

young drivers in old unsafe vehicles leads to a way too high death rate on the roads.

But Duncan, did you not just establish it's the road's fault, not the drivers'?



Daniela

[Duncan74]

But Duncan, did you not just establish it's the road's fault, not the drivers'?



Daniela

It's a little bit of everything. And as Sainsbury's says, Be good To Yourself . Oh hang on, perhaps the "every little helps" was the more appropriate bit of wisdom when applied to reducing casualties through driver, vehicle and road improvement .