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    Sarah, I think that you are feeling discriminated against and looking for things to back it up. One of the reasons that it takes such a time for the visas to go through is the number of applications. they give priority to those who already have got a job to start so that pushes those already waiting back a bit. And I wouldn't feel that its because your Asian that you have been given WTR, a friend of ours from England, again in IT, found the only way he could qualify was to take the WTR visa.

    IT covers such a vast no. of jobs now and not all of them are in demand, and its very noticable that there is a fair number of IT people on this forum and they are not all finding it easy to get jobs.

    It may be an idea if you start another thread with a different heading, something along the lines of IT immigrants. and put in there about how long it is taking for those without jobs to get visas or WTR. not everybody reads posts with a heading that is not relevant to them. The only other thing I would like to say is that if you look for discimination then you will surely find it where ever you are, as a woman in business, regardless of colour I find examples of it against me, but so what, you make your own life.

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    Sarah,

    I know of more than a few people who get WTR rather than PR. From what ive seen, its because they dont have Job Offers.

    It also took months for our paperwork to go through - held up by the sheer number of applications. we also had problems getting answers to queries (a level of unhelpfulness only exceeded by that recieved from NZIS in Wellington!) It didnt speed up till we had a job offer. We were led to beleive that we would be unlikely to get PR straight off without an offer.

    Also, not everyone gets the vISA they want. My parents didnt get one at all! And you really would be horrified at the delays and crap they got from NZIS! (and they had to pay a heeluva lot more for the privalege)

    All I can say its that its an Immigration department. A huge beauracratic nightmare for all of us.

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    I may be wrong, and have a short memory, but it wasn't long ago (i.e. last year when we went through the EOI / ITA process) that getting PR with no job offer wasn't even thought about when going via the Skilled Migrant scheme. We applied, with over 120 points, and our EOI was selected in July 2004, we got on a plane wit no job offers in Sept 04, got job offers in Nov and received 1 yr work visa's because of those job offers. It was only then that we received our ITA (December) with PR finally granted in Feb/March 2005! So that was 8 months from selection to PR and at the time we were told to expect the process to take longer! We fully expected to get WTR or a 2 yr working visa, even though PR was our goal.

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    To sarah ahn
    Just a quick observation. You say your English is well understood and I expect that is correct. However Your English writing is not very good and perhaps this might have a bearing on your situation. However, I suspect you have been suffering general problems and delays that most of us have experienced one way or another. For instance, I was originally told our application would take about 3 months to be dealt with. It took over 6 months! Anyway, if you still want to go to NZ I wish you luck.

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    However Your English writing is not very good and perhaps this might have a bearing on your situation.

    And there was me thinking that Sarah's written English was really good!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moorf
    And there was me thinking that Sarah's written English was really good!!
    Mine's terrible It always looks perfect in my head, but by the time it gets on the screen - its gibberish. Im surprised anyone can tell what im gabbling on about!

    Ho Hum, sign of the compuetr age I guess - I never used to be this crap at writing.

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    Perhaps I have been a little unfair as the English is obviously good in many ways for someone whose 1st language was not English. But there are numerous incorrect words and mistakes of grammar. I was just suggesting a vague reason why she might have had a problem, as she was convinced, probably incorrectly, that her shoddy treatment was due to her being Asian. But my observation was probably unnecessary.

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    Ultimately, this is a forum and not a spelling test - so even though I'm a total stickler for grammar and spelling I often don't give a hoot when posting on here - depends on my mood - having said that, not sure I'd like to go through an english test these days (as Avalon says, this is the age of the spell-checker and I'm sure my spelling has become lazier as time goes by ) - I would probably be as nervous as I was with the driving one!!

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    hi all

    maybe if all of us just took everyone at face value, and tried to see a friendly person behind every look, smile, raised eyebrow or what, then we probably won't find any difficulty getting through the day. after all, good morning still means the same whether it's said in chinese, french, italian, arabic, or english, and if someone says good morning to me that makes my day.

    sometimes things are only said goodnaturedly, and we'd do well to just treat it as it is. that's the beauty of being discriminated against - you get hurt, naturally, but you toughen up and choose to either let it destroy you, or make you a better person, by not mimicking the racist way and instead showing more kindness not only to minority groups but to the racist as well.

    i like the kiwis - they're more goodnatured than any other group of people i know. but i guess it goes both ways too, because filipinos are also known to be goodnatured too.

    cheers
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    A friend from Christchurch asked me to post this newspaper article here for the purpose of general reading and educational. Not meant to offend anyone here. This attached news article was published in early Sept. 2005.

    http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/news/st...,94117,00.html

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    Why I stand up to the skinheads
    By Lincoln Tan (from Christchurch)

    September 07, 2005


    WATCHING my 5-year-old son, Ryan, mimic the national rugby team, All Blacks, sing 'God Defend New Zealand', the country's national anthem, the thought hit me - this is now home for me. My two children, Ryan and Megan, 3, are New Zealand citizens by virtue of birth, and they have been the deciding factor for my wife and I making New Zealand our adopted homeland.

    Singapore, the country I left in 1997, will be to them what China was to our forefathers. New Zealand is where they will grow up and grow old.

    Therein lies an issue of colour - race.

    In Christchurch, where Asians make up only 7 per cent of the population, my kids look obviously different from others.New Zealand may be considered by many to have one of the best race relations in the world, but all is not well in the Land of the Long White Cloud.

    It portrays a '100 per cent' pure clean and green image. But we in Christchurch suffer nights of smog for up to five months in the year.

    The reality of its race relations also has two sides.

    Recently, the wife of a Sikh immigrant wrote to a local paper to say: '(We) have been subjected to eggs being thrown at us along with the racist yelling of 'rag head' and various other malicious vocabularies focused on ethnicity and religion.'

    Last month, a Chinese, who has lived in New Zealand for 17 years, was assaulted by a group of local whites, one of whom said she did it because she 'hates gooks'.

    The fact that this is election year in New Zealand does not help, as politicians play the race card to win votes.

    Asians have been accused of forcing up house prices, clogging up roads, stealing jobs and abusing the welfare system.

    The day-to-day realities of racial discrimination against Asians become even more obvious in my line of work.

    I edit an Asian community newspaper and am a volunteer chairperson for the Asian Youth Trust - a body supporting young Asian migrants and students.

    Last year, a Vietnamese girl was kicked and beaten to the ground at the Christchurch bus interchange by two shaven head New Zealanders. Witnesses just looked on.

    I decided that enough is enough.

    I agreed to work with a Malaysian lawyer and a Muslim university lecturer to organise a march against racism in May last year. The call was for stronger law against race-hate crimes.

    The skinheads decided to hold a counter rally, and were quoted in a newspaper report as saying, 'Asians who cannot fit in deserve to be abused'.

    The local mayor denied racism exists in Christchurch: 'It's only people getting to know each other,' he said, calling the organisers 'extreme' and 'naive'.

    The mayor of Christchurch asked the Asian organisers to back down and said the local council would support the rally only if Asians don their national costumes and turned the march into a street parade.

    I considered this an insult. I did not migrate to New Zealand to become a court jester to entertain the Lord Mayor.

    It was a little more encouraging that 2,000 people were at our rally, and about 20 were at the skinheads'.

    The massive media coverage sparked more talk on racism and race relations.

    But in not having a multicultural past, New Zealand is struggling to find something workable to help racial integration. The 2 1/2 years I spent in national service in Singapore made me realise that whether we are Malay, Indian, Chinese or Eurasian, we shared similar problems. Under our different coloured skins, we were the same.

    I came out of the army having more friends from other races than before.

    So, no matter how much fish and chips or pavlova (a popular Kiwi dessert) I eat, I will still be a Singaporean deep down.

    It is different for my children though, and I have made it my mission to try and make New Zealand a better place for them.

    Ryan will probably never make the All Blacks, and Megan will never be a Rachel Hunter - but they are New Zealanders. That's why I do stupid things like standing up to the skinheads.

    I want my kids to grow up in a place where they are valued, no matter what their colour - just like in daddy's Singapore.

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