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    Question before submiting EOI...

    *** before submitting EOI ***

    First of all want to say Hi to everyone as this is my first post. Before I decided to post a new thread I went through most of the posts that could be helpful, yet haven't found all the answers that could be useful in my case.
    Im about to decide soon if I should submit and EOI but Im not certain in some cases. I would greatly appreciate your opinion on those. I hope that could be helpful for others as well.

    My points for EOI (according to... myself) is 150 without a job offer, with following doubts:

    1. Long term skill shortage list - occupational group in my case would be Finance/Business, occupation Procurement Manager.
    Requirements: One of the following qualifications:
    - Master of Logistics and Supply Chain Management (NZQF Level 9)
    - Postgraduate Diploma in Logistic and Supply Chain Management (NZQF Level 8)
    - Bachelor of Science (Logistics and Supply Chain Management) (NZQF Level 7)
    - Bachelor of Management (Supply Chain Management) (NZQF Level 7)
    - Bachelor of Electronic Commerce (Supply Chain Management) (NZQF Level 7)
    AND
    a minimum of five years’ relevant work experience

    Bonus points requrements:
    One of the following qualifications:
    - Master of Logistics and Supply Chain Management (NZQF Level 9)
    - Postgraduate Diploma in Logistics and Supply Chain Management (NZQF Level 8)
    - Bachelor of Science (Logistics and Supply Chain Management) (NZQF Level 7)
    - Bachelor of Management (Supply Chain Management) (NZQF Level 7)
    - Bachelor of Electronic Commerce (Supply Chain Management) (NZQF Level 7)
    AND
    a minimum of five years’ relevant work experience

    My degrees are
    2008 Bachelor's degree of Logistic with specialization Logistic of enterprise companies
    2010 Master's degree of Management, with specialization Logistic Manager

    so first question is would any of my degrees be relevant? Or is it realitve and up to CO? Supply Chain Management was a great part of my studies programme, but again it's not mentioned in the official name of any degree I gained. Have anyone had simmilar dilemma?


    Question number 2 is about "relevant experience" mentioned as a requirement (5 years in my case). Now is it directly relevant to the occupation claimed, or should they be relevant to the degree itself? Some might say it's same thing, but I know in some fields it might be very tricky.

    As example my work experience in logistic & purchasing department is:
    2 as planning assistant
    3 as planning specialist
    and 3 as production manager.
    Directly as a purchasing manager (equal to procurement according to ANZSCO) only 2 years.
    Would anybody chance his arm telling me if that states for 5 years relevant work experience, or should I better be well prepared to defend/prove it?

    I appreciate any kind of feedback, just to give me at least rough idea am I waisting my time thinking about submitting EOI as a principal applicant.
    Last edited by veralynn; 12th September 2014 at 08:44 AM.

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    About your degrees. You don't have to have exactly the degree mentioned, but one that is equivalent to it. This is determined by NZQA, by doing an IQA. http://www.nzqa.govt.nz/qualificatio...ns-assessment/ They look at the details of the courses followed to gain the qualification(s) you have - the subject-matter studied, to what depth and for how long - then they state what Level the qualification is, and to what NZ qualification (if any) yours is equivalent. If, as is the case for you, you need to be equivalent to a particular set of NZ qualifications, you can ask them to look for those specifically.

    I don't know enough about your line of work to give an opinion about your other question. However, you should be aware that everything you claim has to be supported with evidence, and every piece of evidence is checked out by referring back to a third part, e.g. the institution that granted the qualification, or the past employer.

    I do have a question for you. How do you make up the 150 points you think you have? I'm wondering if you have overestimated somewhere, as it's rare to find someone with that many with only five years' work. If you'd like to share your thinking, people will happily look it over for you.

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    First of all thanks for a rapid reply! Fair play.

    Quote Originally Posted by JandM View Post
    I do have a question for you. How do you make up the 150 points you think you have? I'm wondering if you have overestimated somewhere, as it's rare to find someone with that many with only five years' work. If you'd like to share your thinking, people will happily look it over for you.
    Now, my optimistic 150 points that's including my partner's qualifications and English proficiency. I wouldn't be able to collect that amount of points on my own without a job offer I guess. I might break it down in my next post as soon as I wake up tomorow Good night and thank you again.
    Last edited by veralynn; 12th September 2014 at 11:29 AM.

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    with a job offer things become much simpler and you only need to claim 100 points, (from your job offer and age, and maybe just basic degree or required work experience (proabaly 5 years) if its a management position.

    Also if you have a look at the link below it will take you to the "kiwiquals" page which gets you into the NZ qualifications that are the ones that yours would be compared with (Masters of Supply Chain Management, Level9)
    http://www.nzqa.govt.nz/nzqf/search/...ItemKey=MY0342

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMwn View Post
    with a job offer things become much simpler and you only need to claim 100 points, (from your job offer and age, and maybe just basic degree or required work experience (proabaly 5 years) if its a management position. [/url]
    OK, a bit more about our situation - my partner as a carpenter (6 years experience in Ireland= comparable labour market) with a secured job offer as a principal applicant would get visas for us both as well, so in some sense we are quite flexible. Nothing easier than just find a job and apply...
    However if I go through any threads about getting a job overseas it sounds possible, but very unlikely. On the other hand looking at the factsheets from Forthnightly Selection Statistics it seems like hundreds people have managed, not all of them share their stories online though

    Now I can either stick to option 1, invest my money in full IQA of my degree (instead Pre-Assesment) to know where I am with my qualification. When I will be sure that it's relevant, submit EOI and wait to be picked.

    Or option number 2 (preferred by my partner), get tickets for say 3 weeks to NZ (we both can get 3 weeks holidays), closer to the date start sending out CV with dates when we are available for interviews face to face and see how that goes. After all we were planning holidays anyway allright.

    It might seems Im overthinking the whole situation, but as someone said if you failing to prepare you prepared to fail.
    Last edited by veralynn; 12th September 2014 at 10:14 PM.

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    initially a Working Holiday visa for each of you is worth considering if you are under 30? That could get both of you into employment, which would make a residence application simpler, if not, I'd go with your partner as principal applicant in an SMC application if he is eligible. If you are headed for Christchurch, your partner shouldn't have any problem picking up work; and a visa if he needs one. make sure you bring good evidence of your relationship and prefertable 12 months living together if that's the case so you can get a partnership based visa too.

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