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    Default Schools and Deciles

    As it comes up occasionally as a question and source of confusion, here's an article in the Herald from today talking about the decile system.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11355827

    Bear in mind it is the Herald.

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    It is not really about the decile system, but rather about the decile drift; significant movement and trends over a period of time. If anything I find the interactive graphs and charts rather interesting and useful in explaining information especially if you read further on, as the Herald again prints about the considerable trend for families to enroll their kids into higher decile schools.

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    About the decile system and how the impression that the decile system is a scale of quality has created an imbalance of demographics in low decile schools.

    From the article:
    Decile ratings were introduced in 1995 to promote equality, with low decile schools receiving more funding (decile ratings account for about 12 per cent of all operational funding).Decile 1 schools are the 10 per cent of schools with the highest proportion of students from low socio-economic communities. Decile 10 schools are the 10 per cent with the lowest proportion of such students. Higher decile schools are often happy to take out-of-zone students, because Government funding is linked to student numbers.

    One Auckland principal agreed to talk frankly if his school was unnamed as he did not want to help reinforce the trend. His roll is falling despite strong academic results.

    Mrs Hing said that when Ryan was nearing the end of his time at Pakuranga Intermediate a large number of parents were trying to enrol their children in higher-decile schools out-of-zone."The perception being that perhaps the academic level would be lower [at Edgewater] because of the make-up of the school community - the multicultural aspect of it."
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    That's actually a short explanation of the decile system which is not the point of the articles and the following articles in the Herald. If you read further articles on decile in the Herald, they are more focused not on the decile system but the drifting of more students going to higher decile schools and that 'drift' is a significant movement over a period of time. It is not an explanation of what decile is and what's it all about but the trends in enrollment when it comes to schools. If you look at the interactive data map from Harkanwal Singh, you will notice significant trends across all socio-economic sectors where people simply gravitate towards higher decile schools despite less funding and despite knowing that deciles don't determine the academic performance of the school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batgirl1001 View Post
    It is not an explanation of what decile is and what's it all about but the trends in enrollment when it comes to schools.
    It's an article about the effects of the decile system on enrolment not an article about trends in enrolment with very little to do with the decile system. Therefore, it is an article about the decile system. In light of how misconstrued the decile system is on this forum, it's interesting to read a principal share that, although his school has strong academic results, because of the decile rating, people are leaving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwieagle View Post
    It's an article about the effects of the decile system on enrolment not an article about trends in enrolment with very little to do with the decile system. Therefore, it is an article about the decile system. In light of how misconstrued the decile system is on this forum, it's interesting to read a principal share that, although his school has strong academic results, because of the decile rating, people are leaving.
    If that is the only thing you've read. It is not an article about the decile system but an article on enrollment trends based on the decile system. I suggest you read more than just one article because if you follow the "drift" of all the articles that the Herald has published on this series, you will find they are not just talking about decile but enrollment altogether and furthermore a trend in enrollment where people/parents are influenced by school choices due to decile irregardless of the academic performance of schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batgirl1001 View Post
    It is not really about the decile system, but rather about the decile drift;.
    I'm not sure what your point is here. It quite obviously is an article about the decile system, as clearly 'decile drift' is a part of the decile system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dharder View Post
    I'm not sure what your point is here. It quite obviously is an article about the decile system, as clearly 'decile drift' is a part of the decile system?
    More of an effect because of the decile system rather than the system itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batgirl1001 View Post
    More of an effect because of the decile system rather than the system itself.
    Still don't see the difference, but also wonder if it is relevant in this context. Schools and the decile system come up frequently in the forum, and since it seems a quite NZ specific thing, there are almost always questions about it. I just thought I'd add an article with information about the decile system. Or, if you'd rather, the decile system and its consequences...

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    Although I do find the drift interesting, I don't think it is of any relevance to parents who are enrolling their kids into school or anything about the decile system for that matter. What is relevant right now and perhaps more important than the NZ Herald article, is the release of the new decile ratings which will of course affect funding, and the amount that parents will have to "donate". I believe the MOE is about to release them soon.

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