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    Default Job Offer pathway to Work Visa from a current Visitor Visa for a Year

    Hi there. My son has been here for 2 years previously on a Work Visa. And now he is on a Visitor Visa valid for a year. He has a Job Offer to which his qualification and work experience are not related at all. Is there any chance he woul be granted a Work Visa base on his situation?
    Would love to hear from you soon
    Thanks in advance.

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    From this page. http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migra.../requirements/

    I have a job offer from a New Zealand employer

    If you have a job offer from a New Zealand employer and do not fall under one of the categories for specialist workers below, you may apply under the Essential Skills work category. The employer will need to show that no New Zealand citizens or residents are available to do the job, either by:

    showing that the job is included in one of the Essential Skills In Demand Lists; or
    providing evidence that they have genuinely tried to find a New Zealand worker to fill the position.

    In addition, you must be appropriately qualified by training or experience to take up the position. See the full list of requirements.
    So whether or not he could get a visa would probably depend on showing that he is qualified by experience to do the job.

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    Thanks JandM. How about if the employer advertised the job as "no experience required and willing to provide full training in the course of the job" and also the employer entirely supports the employee's application because he/she needs a worker to fill in the position immediately?
    Thank you.

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    There needs to have been proper advertising to try to fill the post http://www.immigration.govt.nz/opsmanual/45981.htm, and nobody with NZ citizenship or residence who applied who was suitable.

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    Hi JandM. Thank you for your response. Am I right to understand the Notes below the instruction that Skill Level 5 does not need relevant qualification and experience for the job? Is Farm Assistant considered on a Skill Level 5 list?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Am I right to understand the Notes below the instruction that Skill Level 5 does not need relevant qualification and experience for the job?
    All positions at ANZSCO skill level 5 are positions which New Zealand citizens and residence class visa holder workers are considered able to ‘readily be trained to do the work on offer’.
    Do you mean this note?

    This note means that foreigners will not normally be given a visa to do a skill level 5 position, because there are enough people legally able to work in the country already who could just walk in and do it. The employer would have had to check with the authorities about there being any in the immediate area before employing a foreigner who would need to get a visa. http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migra...tchreports.htm http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migra...entialwork.htm

    To be blunt about it, I think your son would have a much better chance of getting a work visa if he looked for something in line with his qualifications and experience.

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    Thanks for your response. This is what I mean and I quote
    Notes:
    - Local region is defined based on the regions used by Work and Income.
    - At ANZSCO skill level 5, work experience and qualifications will not be relevant.
    - Where other prerequisites are needed to perform the role an employer must explain why and demonstrate that the remuneration offered reflects those requirements.

    JandM. What if I'll train my son in the basic of dairy farming without any pay from the employer and my employer writes to immigration a certificate of training of my so n? By this my son would have a skill or experience in his application as Dairy Farm Assistant. Will this be legal base on immigration instructions under Essential Skills?

    Thank you in advance.

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    That note is repeating what is said more plainly here, in the definition from ANZSCO. http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@....8?opendocument
    SKILL LEVEL 5

    Occupations at Skill Level 5 have a level of skill commensurate with one of the following:

    NZ Register Level 1 qualification
    AQF Certificate I or
    compulsory secondary education.

    For some occupations a short period of on-the-job training may be required in addition to or instead of the formal qualification.

    In some instances, no formal qualification or on-the-job training may be required.
    In other words, a totally inexperienced school-leaver could walk in, be shown the tasks, and be expected to cope.

    Farm Assistant is graded as a Level 5 job. There is no shortage in NZ of people to do it. It will ONLY be a pathway to an Essential Skills visa IF you live in such an isolated place that advertising (of the approved, full, proper sort, as described in the link in post#4, above) by the farmer has totalled failed to get any applicants who already have citizenship or residence coming forward. There is no required training or experience, so the kind of training you're suggesting would have no effect at all.

    Also, I know you very much want to get your son a visa so he can live and work in NZ, and evidently, your employer is willing to help out if he can. But Immigration NZ are very experienced, and they can see a set-up in one glance. Oh, look - parent works there, friendly boss, manufactured job, they will be thinking.

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    Hi JandM. My son has received a job offer from an employer I don't know. The employer wants to hire a Filipino for the job and as my son is already on shore he would think it easier to recruit him rather than go through expensive agencies in the Philippines to hire one.

    Hoping for a positive result.
    Thanks a lot.

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    Okay, that's good - but what I said still applies, that this employer would have to show that he has advertised and given the authorities to direct any available NZ citizens or residence holders in the area his way, and found none of them suitable.

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