Submit EOI without a job offer but claiming to have one and adding it later?

[yesno]

Hi everyone,

I'm currently analysing my options to get an NZ visa.

I'm a software developer and as such should have some options on the labour market. At least one would think so. But since there's almost no employer interested in starting the interview process with me not being in the country and not having a visa already, I wonder what I could do to increase my chances.

One thing I'm thinking about is to submit an EOI claiming a job offer (I would need one in general otherwise I wouldn't score 160 or above). Problem is, in the EOI, they want employer details. I'm thinking about just entering an arbitrary employer from the list of my prospective employers and change it later in the application to the real one. IMO, it would be kind of the equivalent of receiving an offer, filing an EOI and then receiving a better offer from another employer and decide to go with that. What do you think about that? Is that doable or even normal, or would be considered as cheating? I really do not want to game the system but I'm worried that without taking such a step I would never be considered by any employer.

[filipinoguy]

Hi everyone,

I'm currently analysing my options to get an NZ visa.

I'm a software developer and as such should have some options on the labour market. At least one would think so. But since there's almost no employer interested in starting the interview process with me not being in the country and not having a visa already, I wonder what I could do to increase my chances.

One thing I'm thinking about is to submit an EOI claiming a job offer (I would need one in general otherwise I wouldn't score 160 or above). Problem is, in the EOI, they want employer details. I'm thinking about just entering an arbitrary employer from the list of my prospective employers and change it later in the application to the real one. IMO, it would be kind of the equivalent of receiving an offer, filing an EOI and then receiving a better offer from another employer and decide to go with that. What do you think about that? Is that doable or even normal, or would be considered as cheating? I really do not want to game the system but I'm worried that without taking such a step I would never be considered by any employer.

Dude, from the point of view of someone who happened to speak with a lot of immigration agents and submitted online applications for both SMC and talent (employer accredited) visas, one's integrity is among the criteria being evaluated. In fact this is included in the list of questionnaires requiring answers (character section). Also, at the end of the extensive yes or no questions, there is a disclaimer portion requiring one to make an explicit undertaking as to the authenticity of the information supplied. Any misrepresentations are dealt accordingly (e.g. applicants with deliberate intention to mislead the NZ immigration may be banned from applying any type of visas in future or any commensurate corrective actions that the NZ immigration may deem appropriate.

As such, I advise you to continuously seek prospective employers. You are working in one of the most in-demand industries. I would never even doubt for a second your ability of securing an NZ post while based offshore. In fact, I'm a living proof of this. I submitted myriad of applications through seek.com and unsurprisingly, received lots of rejection emails. This was heartbreaking and an integrated part of the hiring process, but I got used to it as days went by. To sum it up, one of the NZ prospective employers contacted me through phone as I'm residing and working in Singapore as of this writing. The interview went well so we proceeded with the second skype interview. After a few days of waiting, I was offered a job in Wellington and the rest was history.

Cheer up man!!! Don't compromise your immigration dream with a careless mistake.

[JandM]

As the last poster says, don't do it. Don't even think about it.

http://onlineservices.immigration.go...nual/43627.htm A5.45. e
http://onlineservices.immigration.go...nual/35058.htm A5.25 i

[ChrisMwn]

and equally:
http://onlineservices.immigration.go...nual/30524.htm

[yesno]

Thanks a lot for all your very insightful comments! You all really confirm what I have initially thought, the information needs to be accurate at the time the EOI is filed. In order to clarify a bit more, the background of my question was related to a statement made by a recruiter I was talking to. She said, that it would be good to have filed the EOI already and suggested to use a prospective employer. Totally misleading information as it turns out now. Maybe she just didn't know but why then make such a statement. I think I should always consider the ops manual first or ask the forum, in case something is strange and unclear. I guess I should also stay away from that recruiter, shouldn't I?

@ChrisMwn this was very helpful! Even though I think it is not easy to get everything right in the EOI one must obviously trying to be as accurate as possible and make statement in very good faith, which can later be proven to the immigration officer. But for instance, if my education is at the exact level required, I can only know after I've got NZQA assessment results. Those would only be required if EOI is successful.

Thanks everyone!

[ChrisMwn]

Your recruiters advice could have placed you in a very difficult position.

That's why unlicensed persons shouldn't give advice and why there are severe penalties for doing so.
Refer the the "sticks" at the head of these threads.

[skp1985]

[QUOTE=ChrisMwn;551656]Your recruiters advice could have placed you in a very difficult position.
Hi chrismwn

can we contact Immigration newzeland through email or they only allow phone contact. if they allow email contact please share the email

[ChrisMwn]

[QUOTE=skp1985;551658]

Your recruiters advice could have placed you in a very difficult position.
Hi chrismwn

can we contact Immigration newzeland through email or they only allow phone contact. if they allow email contact please share the email

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/contact

[skp1985]

[QUOTE=ChrisMwn;551663]

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/contact

It just have the contact through the phone

does they have any email id ???