Job offer?

[debbieM]

Has anyone out there received a job offer offshore without a visa...my OHs job is on the Skills Shortage List and Skilled Migrants list...but without a job offer he is just short of the 160 points required to be pulled from the EOI pool.

Thanks for any input in advance.

[JandM]

It's rare, unless the person has a niche skill which the NZ employer can't readily find onshore. Sorry. It's general, and nothing personal.

Here's an old post which may shed some light. https://www.enz.org/forum/showthread...952#post359952 Also, the whole NZ culture is for employers to like to shake someone's hand and sum them up in person.

[debbieM]

Thankyou JandM...Yes we are considering a long holiday with some interviews set up if we can...its an option, and as other options are running out, it may be something we do after summer...

[Juniper]

This faq doesn't specifically mention bringing your family with you for a job interview trip, but I thought I saw somewhere that it would look like you all intend to overstay. Even traveling to NZ once you have a job offer, but before your work visa is finished processing, looks bad.
http://kb.immigration.govt.nz/item/1135

[debbieM]

No worries...we are UK citizens...

[mahollow]

It's rare, unless the person has a niche skill which the NZ employer can't readily find onshore. Sorry. It's general, and nothing personal.

Here's an old post which may shed some light. https://www.enz.org/forum/showthread...952#post359952 Also, the whole NZ culture is for employers to like to shake someone's hand and sum them up in person.

Yup. Would second that. I work for a large tech company (US Based with offices in NZ). The head of APAC HR said that they rarely even hire from overseas, let alone search overseas. Typically they source from the local city first, then country and then Oz. After that they go to a contractor (QualIT, Sourced. etc) and lastly - if the position is of high enough importance - they will engage an internationally focused but NZ based recruiter. Otherwise - they just wait and try again in 6 months.

Best thing I did was book some interviews once we landed on our recce trip. That effort directly led to my job offer 9 months later. Not guaranteed but it helps your chances and also gives you the opportunity to size them up as well.

[Juniper]

Yup. Would second that. I work for a large tech company (US Based with offices in NZ). The head of APAC HR said that they rarely even hire from overseas, let alone search overseas. Typically they source from the local city first, then country and then Oz. After that they go to a contractor (QualIT, Sourced. etc) and lastly - if the position is of high enough importance - they will engage an internationally focused but NZ based recruiter. Otherwise - they just wait and try again in 6 months.

Best thing I did was book some interviews once we landed on our recce trip. That effort directly led to my job offer 9 months later. Not guaranteed but it helps your chances and also gives you the opportunity to size them up as well.

Thanks for this insight, I wasn't really sure what the general trend was regarding overseas recruitment.

We went with the reccie trip option, and managed to meet the right employer in more of a social situation. Kiwis like that. My husband does have a ton of Silicon Valley programming/management experience in a number of different areas, so being highly skilled was still a big part of the equation. Luck played a role, too - right place, right time. If you can afford a reccie trip though, at a minimum you get to see the country a bit more :-) It's way more fun if you can bring family for the ride.

Recently at school we noticed the kids were supposed to define family. One of our daughters put that family is "a group of people that travel across the world to visit." I guess all our time on the road left an impression! Or maybe it's because we've already had their cousins visit us in NZ. Either way, I'm glad we decided to homeschool for awhile to make time for the reccie.

[Juniper]

Please note: my understanding is that if you already have interviews scheduled, the purpose of your trip must be declared as business, not holiday. I don't think a family can travel together for an extended business trip as this looks like potential for overstaying. This is why we came here on a 6-month visit with no interviews scheduled, so the family could travel together for a holiday. You can set up interviews once you're here...although I realize this is risky. Or, the person being interviewed can come alone on a business trip instead.

[SteveCAD]

It can happen but is not the norm. We were able to do this but my skill set is very niche. Employer wasn’t looking at overseas candidates but I ticked all their boxes. Don’t give up hope but know it’s not common.

[Tawy35]

I have just lost my job offer and i am at the last stages of my application. What do i do.

My case has been for medical opinion and had written a statement requesting medical waiver.

Im really lost, any help. It's talent accredited employer visa. Please help if there r options