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Thread: Chronic Illnes - how much Information should I give?

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    Default Chronic Illnes - how much Information should I give?

    Hey everyone

    I have Crohn's disease since 10 years now but have been completely fine since my first flare.
    Back then I took Azathioprine for 5 years - which is still accepted as medication on Immigration.govt.nz -> not too serious or too expensive itself.
    No surgery needed yet.

    As i have been completely fine and in Remission the last few years, I wonder how much trouble my disease could cause me.
    My blood shouldn't show anything except of maybe low iron, which is somewhat normal for a lot of women and for IBD patients.

    All I have is a last coloscopy report from a few years ago that was completely fine back then (minor irregularities but they would have not seen I had IBD
    pathology stated).

    Also I went to a specialist for an ultrasound the other week for a pre-check of my Emigration. All good down there.

    Now how do I prepare best for the Medical and for the MA that my Information will be sent to ?
    Should I get my first diagnosis papers, that old last coloscopy report and that current sonography ready (and translated) ?
    Will that be enough, as they can see i am doing fine and my bloods are ok?

    I haven't had blood done since i stopped the medication back then as i didn't even feel my diseaseĀ… Will they ask for more Information
    from the last few years even if I state there is None as i haven't been to the doctors?
    Do you guys know if they tend to Keep digging or accept the Information if I bring as much as possible and if it Looks good (+ prognosis good and such).

    Or is there a way they can access my saved health data from the last few years - for me to proof?
    I live in Germany though and can't imagine they would be allowed to do that :/

    Very Looking Forward to Responses and experiences
    About to make the appointment for the medical soon,
    after thinking on how to make me seem as healthy as I am

    I am a bit worried of spending all that Money and Energie just to get denied in the end...
    Any IBD People also please contact me if you want !

    Oh forgot to say: I am applying for partnership based Residency.
    I think i will Need a Limited Medical but couldn't find a difference to the General except of Urine...?

    Cheers!

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    Or is it possible to tell the Panel Doctor to take even more bloodwork such as Inflammation markers so they can see themselves?

    Would just be amazing if I could provide everything possible so they don't have to come back to me asking
    for more documents I don't have

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    See my answer on your other thread, which I found before this one. Sending a doctor's/consultant's letter and/or test results to accompany the medical is a well-known way to try to shorten the process.

    INZ COs are not expected to make decisions about medicals - that is the job of Medical Assessors. They have the right to continue to require more medical opinions or tests until they fully understand an applicant's state of health.

    Notice here https://www.immigration.govt.nz/opsmanual/#45636.htm that, if you were to be found not to have an Acceptable Standard of Health (ASH), since you are applying for a partner-sponsored Residence visa, you would almost certainly be granted a Medical Waiver.

    Also, notice that an application to INZ counts as a legal contract, and by submitting it, the applicant is understood to be signing to say that they are telling the truth throughout. Afterwards, being found not to have told the full truth can be the reason for any visa granted to be annulled, on the grounds of fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JandM View Post
    Notice here https://www.immigration.govt.nz/opsmanual/#45636.htm that, if you were to be found not to have an Acceptable Standard of Health (ASH), since you are applying for a partner-sponsored Residence visa, you would almost certainly be granted a Medical Waiver.
    Wow you're a godsent, thank you so much.

    I have not once come across this information in all my last years relationship and research.
    This pretty much means I will get (if relationship proof is enough) residency,
    As i a) don't have any of these health issues and b) my partner has always been a kiwi ?

    This means they would even accept cancer-patients and such just so a love-couple can stay together?

    Also am I correct that medical waiver means I will be covered and insured without any problems just like someone healthy would? Will do some more research on that.

    Thank you!

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    This pretty much means I will get (if relationship proof is enough) residency,
    As i a) don't have any of these health issues and b) my partner has always been a kiwi ?
    Yes.

    This means they would even accept cancer-patients and such just so a love-couple can stay together?
    Yes, unless a or b as spelt out at that link applies.

    Also am I correct that medical waiver means I will be covered and insured without any problems just like someone healthy would?
    A NZ resident, whatever their condition, will be treated under the NZ Health Service and ACC on exactly the same basis as a NZ national. This provision is not part of any insurance. If you are talking about private health insurance, that is a different matter, and any company would have their own rules for acceptance as a client, nothing to do with what INZ accepts.

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    Hi biem,
    Sorry to learn about your crohns. I have crohns too. I think as long as you are not on expensive medications like biologics you should be alright. A4.10 ASH do state as below "Severe autoimmune disease which may require treatment in New Zealand with immune-suppressant medications other than Prednisone, Methotrexate, Azathioprine or Salazopyrine". My case didnt even reach the medical waiver stage with a capable lawyer of coarse. Regarding your iron level, drinking plenty of apple, pineapple, spinach and kale smoothly will help. Best wishes.

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    Thank you nick_nav for your Reply
    yes i read that part in the guide but have also heard about some cases that were in Remission but taking Aza only and got declined and had a lot of Trouble. So i was a bit worried, but gladly no reasons anymore now anyway.
    Did you take any medication when you applied? What visa was that for? And have you sent in all your documents About diagnosis, recent sonographies and such? I am not with a lawyer



    JandM , your Information is taking off so much pressure of my Partner and I . Thank you for giving all those efficient answers to literally everyone Posting in this Forum!
    Would you still recommend to send in as much old Doctors stuff as possible (plus Translation which does cost extra), so the MA gets a good view onto it or does it not really matter as much as i am not contagious (etc.) and would get the Medical Waiver anyway?

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    In your place, I would send the information. If you don't HAVE to ask for the Medical Waiver, I think that on the whole, that's better.

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    Got my residency without needing a medical waiver.
    I think the supporting letter from my Specialist made a huge deal. Honest but as optimistic as possible with a chronic illness & have sent in everything else I had

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    Quote Originally Posted by biem View Post
    Got my residency without needing a medical waiver.
    I think the supporting letter from my Specialist made a huge deal. Honest but as optimistic as possible with a chronic illness & have sent in everything else I had
    congrats

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