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[JandM]

it is written that in last two years (count back from the date I apply for PR) I just need to be in NZ for around 180 days to be eligible for pr.

Wrong. See these links. The basic conditions: https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-...anent-resident The commitment to NZ criteria: https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-...zealand/slider

So already, your scenario is impossible.

But on to your question about expiry of residency. A NZ resident visa does not expire - it's for life, WHILE YOU ARE IN THE COUNTRY. However, with the residence visa comes two years of travel conditions, and 'travel conditions' is INZ's strange name for permission to re-enter NZ freely as many times as you want. And the travel conditions DO expire, two years after you were granted (or activated, if it was granted while your were overseas) your residence visa. So if you have expired travel conditions and you're in New Zealand, with no wish or need to travel overseas, that makes no difference to your life. But if you want to go overseas AND COME BACK, or your conditions expire while you are overseas, then without taking some other action about a visa, you can't re-enter the country. So in effect, your Residence would lapse, because you couldn't get in to take advantage of it. For what you might be able to do, if eligible, to readjust your visa status, see the bottom paragraph on the first link I gave, above.

[JandM]

Hi
I have question about Automated check. I have gap in residence and citizenship application. I was away from Nz for six months in last seven years but presence calculator say I am eligible so I’ve already applied Do know anyone my application will pick after month. or it will check manually please shared experience

I don't know an answer to give you. Short of working in the office, I expect it would only be guesswork for most people, to think of what may be happening. Good luck.

[Torki]

Wrong. See these links. The basic conditions: https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-...anent-resident The commitment to NZ criteria: https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-...zealand/slider

So already, your scenario is impossible.

But on to your question about expiry of residency. A NZ resident visa does not expire - it's for life, WHILE YOU ARE IN THE COUNTRY. However, with the residence visa comes two years of travel conditions, and 'travel conditions' is INZ's strange name for permission to re-enter NZ freely as many times as you want. And the travel conditions DO expire, two years after you were granted (or activated, if it was granted while your were overseas) your residence visa. So if you have expired travel conditions and you're in New Zealand, with no wish or need to travel overseas, that makes no difference to your life. But if you want to go overseas AND COME BACK, or your conditions expire while you are overseas, then without taking some other action about a visa, you can't re-enter the country. So in effect, your Residence would lapse, because you couldn't get in to take advantage of it. For what you might be able to do, if eligible, to readjust your visa status, see the bottom paragraph on the first link I gave, above.

Thanks. But it is obviously written like this:

There are 5 ways you can show us your commitment to living in New Zealand permanently. We need to see evidence of at least one of them.
Acceptable evidence of your commitment to living in New Zealand

1. You have spent enough time in New Zealand

You need to have spent at least 184 days in New Zealand on a resident visa in each of the 2 years immediately before you apply for permanent residence.
Note

This 2 year period is the time immediately before you apply for permanent residence, not the 2 years since your resident visa was issued.

The 184 days does not need to be in a row — you can leave and return to New Zealand as many times as your visa conditions allow.

Just in two years yo need to be inside NZ for 184 days.

I dont get why am I wrong?

Sorry I am naive and get stressed. I understand that this seems odd but it is not against the rule that I work 184 days after I get residency and then resign and leave country and at the end of two years turn back and apply for PR? Why this is impossible? I did not see anything in the rule that do not allow me get pr.

Sorry for these questions I need to know the scenarios

[Torki]

Wrong. See these links. The basic conditions: https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-...anent-resident The commitment to NZ criteria: https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-...zealand/slider

So already, your scenario is impossible.

But on to your question about expiry of residency. A NZ resident visa does not expire - it's for life, WHILE YOU ARE IN THE COUNTRY. However, with the residence visa comes two years of travel conditions, and 'travel conditions' is INZ's strange name for permission to re-enter NZ freely as many times as you want. And the travel conditions DO expire, two years after you were granted (or activated, if it was granted while your were overseas) your residence visa. So if you have expired travel conditions and you're in New Zealand, with no wish or need to travel overseas, that makes no difference to your life. But if you want to go overseas AND COME BACK, or your conditions expire while you are overseas, then without taking some other action about a visa, you can't re-enter the country. So in effect, your Residence would lapse, because you couldn't get in to take advantage of it. For what you might be able to do, if eligible, to readjust your visa status, see the bottom paragraph on the first link I gave, above.

You mentioned do not have expiry date until you are in NZ. but I dont get it. Residency means you can re-enter many times but there is difference with permanent residence for sure which i DO NOT GET THAT PART? PR does not have a limitation like residency. This is the "limitation" I dont understand. But what is that 184 days then? Consider my passport will be expired in 30.04.2026. Now I applied for residency and I will get my residency in 30.03.2024 (say around). Also, I get post graduate work visa say at 30.03.2024. Why my residency in danger if I leave this country for 6 months or even one year after that date or after 184 days staying in NZ after the date I get my residency?
Overall, consider this as my being naive. From what you said we need any kind of visa even if we have residency if we want to exit enter country, right? And that is the visa that expired not residency. right? But still that 184 days is applicable I think if our visa allows.

[JandM]

You are misreading what is written. You have to have spent at least 184 days in NZ in EACH of the two years just before you apply for Residence. Suppose you apply on 30.03.26 - you have to have spent at least 184 days in NZ in BOTH the year leading up to that date, AND the year leading up to 30.03 25 as well.

[JandM]

If you get Residence, you will not be granted Post Graduate Work Visa as well. A Residence visa supersedes any temporary visa.

There are visas, then there are entry permits (being allowed to cross the border). With a Residence visa, you have to have valid travel conditions (the entry permit, which runs for just two years) to enter the country. (That is not another sort of visa.) With a Permanent Resident visa, you don't have to have an entry permit as well.

[farfaraway]

hi Torki, Can we please have a new thread for PRV and RV related questions?

If you get RV, you won't get a work visa, and you don't need a work visa.
You might need to have a good reading of the related posts in this forum. Plenty of examples and rich information has already been posted in the forum. Please use the search function at the top.

[sakitran]

I have another question - after submitting citizenship application two months ago (which I had been eligible for applying), I had to make a sudden flight to my home country last week as one of my family member passed away. I will fly back to New Zealand this weekend. Do I need to make any declaration to the DIA about my trip, and if yes is there any form to fill in or I just email DIA?

Thank you!
Sakitran

[Kelerei]

I have another question - after submitting citizenship application two months ago (which I had been eligible for applying), I had to make a sudden flight to my home country last week as one of my family member passed away. I will fly back to New Zealand this weekend. Do I need to make any declaration to the DIA about my trip, and if yes is there any form to fill in or I just email DIA?

Thank you!
Sakitran

You should inform the Citizenship Office of your travel, as this materially affects how you answered the question in the application pertaining to overseas travel. Emailing will be fine: be sure to include your application number so that the Citizenship Office can connect the dots.

[sakitran]

You should inform the Citizenship Office of your travel, as this materially affects how you answered the question in the application pertaining to overseas travel. Emailing will be fine: be sure to include your application number so that the Citizenship Office can connect the dots.

Thank you!